Legislature(2001 - 2002)

02/13/2002 08:04 AM House EDU

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HB 342-EDUCATION FUNDING                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1090                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE announced  the next  order of  business to  be HOUSE                                                               
BILL NO.  342, "An Act  relating to appropriations  for operating                                                               
expenses  for   primary  and  secondary  public   education;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 1099                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  presented HB  342 as the  bill's sponsor.                                                               
He  explained  that   HB  342  provides  for   early  funding  of                                                               
education; this has  been considered [by the  legislature] in the                                                               
past.  He recounted his  frustration as school board president in                                                               
determining the  school district's  budget for the  upcoming year                                                               
with funding  from the borough and  the state.  He'd  also served                                                               
as borough mayor,  caught between demands of  the school district                                                               
and the legislature's slowness in  funding.  House Bill 342 would                                                               
require the governor  to submit a separate  appropriation bill to                                                               
the  legislature for  education  before the  fourth  day of  each                                                               
regular session.   It asks  the legislature  to pass and  send to                                                               
the governor  a bill funding  the following fiscal year  by April                                                               
1.   School districts would  be required  to have budgets  to the                                                               
municipality by May 1.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1182                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS   offered  that   the  problem   lies  in                                                               
districts'  having to  base upcoming  budgets  on assumptions  of                                                               
funding.   The state is  facing changes in education  and teacher                                                               
shortages, he said.   He expressed surprise at  the opposition to                                                               
HB 342,  which he  attributed to  political strategy.   Surmising                                                               
that other  opposition has to  do with the  Constitutional Budget                                                               
Reserve (CBR),  he remarked, "The  CBR is  not going to  be there                                                               
much longer,  so maybe we  don't need to  worry about it  for too                                                               
much longer."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS  said  the present  system  gives  school                                                               
boards  very little  time to  plan; education  requires planning.                                                               
An enormous  amount of  the state budget  goes to  education, and                                                               
this  bill would  "ease things  up considerably."   The  district                                                               
would  know  how  much  money  it had  early  in  the  bargaining                                                               
process.   He echoed  Representative Wilson's  sentiment, asking,                                                               
"What's best for kids?"                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1284                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS,  Manager,  School Finance  and  Facilities  Section,                                                               
Education  Support Services,  Department of  Education and  Early                                                               
Development (EED), stated that HB 342 has no fiscal impact on                                                                   
EED.  He commented that Representative Stevens had covered the                                                                  
issue well.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1309                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON returned to submit AASB's position on HB 342.  He                                                                   
paraphrased from a written statement and said:                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Our association  is supportive and appreciative  of the                                                                    
     work that the bill's  sponsor continues to undertake on                                                                    
     behalf of education and the children of our state.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     That being said,  our association is not  in support of                                                                    
     early  funding  for  education at  this  point  in  our                                                                    
     state's  history.    We  do  not  believe  that  public                                                                    
     education will be  well served by HB 342.   Our members                                                                    
     believe  strongly that  adequacy of  school funding  is                                                                    
     paramount to the urgency of  knowing a funding level by                                                                    
     April 1 of a given year.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Many   of   us   recognize   that   our   schools   are                                                                    
     transitioning from  an accreditation-based system  to a                                                                    
     standards-based  system in  an  effort  to support  the                                                                    
     concept of  "no child left  behind," the mantra  of our                                                                    
     President; that  our school systems are  currently mid-                                                                    
     stream  in  this  transition, at  a  time  when  recent                                                                    
     history has  shown that our  funding level  hasn't kept                                                                    
     pace with  inflation over the  past decade -  making it                                                                    
     extremely difficult  for schools  to meet the  needs of                                                                    
     all  children;  and  finally,   that  our  schools  are                                                                    
     balancing  a   variety  of  unfunded   and  underfunded                                                                    
     mandates, as  well as many  additional responsibilities                                                                    
     that  require more  resources  to  achieve the  desired                                                                    
     result.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Education  initiatives  currently being  undertaken  in                                                                    
     Alaska beg  for additional  funds for  school districts                                                                    
     to do their job well.   Our association, as well as the                                                                    
     majority  of Alaskan  citizens, believe  that education                                                                    
     is the  highest priority.   In  times of  scarcity, the                                                                    
     educational needs  of our children  are best  served by                                                                    
     adequate  funding, not  by  an  accommodation of  early                                                                    
     funding that, by  definition, could easily short-change                                                                    
     education  given the  current fiscal  condition of  our                                                                    
     state.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1412                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS  asked  Mr.   Johnson  if  he  would  still                                                               
disagree  with this  policy if  the  legislature guaranteed  that                                                               
education funding would be the same whether funded on May 15 or                                                                 
April 1.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON replied  that if the amount were  determined and set,                                                               
AASB  could agree  to that.   Nonetheless,  this is  not how  the                                                               
system  works.   The final  days and  hours of  the [legislative]                                                               
session are key  in determining funding allocations.   He offered                                                               
that education is  well served to be "at the  table" and involved                                                               
in that funding conversation.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON explained  that municipalities'  funding is  unknown                                                               
[until  the  end of  session],  so  districts  are told  to  plan                                                               
budgets on  the same municipal  funding as the previous  year; in                                                               
June,  this amount  may be  changed when  funding is  known.   He                                                               
added that  supplemental education funding might  be available at                                                               
the  end  of  the  session  [and  might  be  precluded  by  early                                                               
funding].   He reiterated, "We  would prefer, as  an association,                                                               
to be at the  table at the end of the  session ... advocating for                                                               
what we believe is right for children."                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1500                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE inquired whether  AASB would perceive itself                                                               
to be at the table if the date were moved to an earlier time.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON  answered that the  association would be  invited and                                                               
present  at  the table  in  the  earlier  funding scenario.    He                                                               
acknowledged that  the legislature's task of  balancing competing                                                               
needs is enormous.  He said:                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     From our  perspective, if you  were to  simply dispatch                                                                    
     [with] education by  April 1 of each year,  it would be                                                                    
     very easy to  say, "Our situation is  so challenging in                                                                    
     the  state, ...  take flat  funding and  be happy  with                                                                    
     that."    We don't  think  that  puts  us in  the  best                                                                    
     position ... at the end of the session.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1550                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE queried,  "You want to stay alive to  the last minute                                                               
in hopes that you can bargain politically to increase funding?"                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. JOHNSON replied, "Absolutely."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1582                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS noted that the  intention of HB 342 is not                                                               
to   underfund  education.     He   cautioned  that   last-minute                                                               
bargaining in the legislature might not serve education well.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 1624                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS  agreed  with Representative  Stevens  that                                                               
this [legislation] is  good education policy.   She remarked, "If                                                               
we want  to be able  to hold  people accountable for  how they're                                                               
spending money,  they need to  be able to  have the time  to plan                                                               
appropriately for  their budget.   It saddens me that  this isn't                                                               
going to move forward because it's not good politics."                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GUESS emphasized  that  the CBR  argument is  the                                                               
weakest argument.  She indicated  that the legislature might want                                                               
to reevaluate the way it does  business - with the final 72 hours                                                               
determining much of the funding.   She concluded, "Unfortunately,                                                               
because  of testimony  like  we  heard today,  no  one will  risk                                                               
making  good policy  because of  the politics  that we  choose to                                                               
have in this body."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Number 1700                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOULE offered  that  an early  deadline might  be                                                               
helpful  by isolating  the issue  of education  and focusing  the                                                               
efforts of  the lobbying.   He  acknowledged that  school boards,                                                               
administrators,  and teachers  have  been an  effective lobby  in                                                               
mobilizing  the  state  and subsequently  the  legislature.    He                                                               
offered  his  opinion that  the  early  funding date  might  help                                                               
education's position.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE said,  "What you're saying [is] rather  than being at                                                               
the end where  everybody is at the table, ...  your voice may not                                                               
be as loud because of all the voices there."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 1800                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PORTER offered  that  the  legislature is  facing                                                               
"one heck  of a  fiscal dilemma."   He  reported that  many other                                                               
states and  some Canadian  provinces have made  up to  25 percent                                                               
across-the-board  budget reductions,  including education.   This                                                               
[funding  deadline] might  be a  better  idea for  the next  five                                                               
years [as the state faces budget shortfalls], he suggested.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1858                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DAVE  JONES, Director  of Finance,  Kodiak Island  Borough School                                                               
District,  testified  via  teleconference.   He  noted  that  the                                                               
Kodiak  district  is  currently  in   the  budget  process.    He                                                               
characterized the district's position  regarding state funding as                                                               
"uncertainty"  that affects  the  district's  ability to  educate                                                               
students.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES told members that  Quality Schools funding and Learning                                                               
Opportunity Grant  (LOG) funding are  not part of  the Foundation                                                               
Formula.   This  funding  may or  may not  be  funded each  year.                                                               
Teachers who are  hired with these grant monies are  placed in an                                                               
uncertain  position each  year -  they  can wait  [to seek  other                                                               
employment] in  hopes that  the funding is  renewed, or  they can                                                               
seek  a  more  secure  position funded  with  Foundation  Formula                                                               
monies.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 1898                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. JONES noted  that the April 1 commitment  would eliminate six                                                               
weeks of  uncertainty, and  it would reduce  staff turnover.   He                                                               
explained that the middle school  and high school principals have                                                               
each requested  one new  teacher to help  students pass  the High                                                               
School  Graduation   Qualifying  Exam   (HSGQE).    An   April  1                                                               
commitment of  Foundation Formula funds by  the legislature would                                                               
put his district in the  "recruitment wars" six weeks earlier; in                                                               
today's market, those  six weeks are critical  for recruiting the                                                               
better  teachers.   By  May  15,  he  noted, many  teachers  have                                                               
already committed to teaching positions  for the following school                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JONES  reported that  he  is  the  president of  the  Alaska                                                               
Association  of School  Business Officials  (ALASBO).   He stated                                                               
that he'd  told the ALASBO board  of directors about HB  342, and                                                               
had  received only  positive comments  about it.   Statewide,  he                                                               
offered, people would  like to have the extra six  weeks to plan.                                                               
Mr. Jones said  he would like to see this  passed to help Alaskan                                                               
districts educate students.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 1999                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE  reminded  members that  they'd  heard  comments  in                                                               
support  of earlier  funding in  the House  Special Committee  on                                                               
Education hearings on recruitment and retention of teachers.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Number 2007                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOULE  asked, "What happens  if we fail to  pass a                                                               
bill by April 1?"                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS  expressed  his understanding  that  this                                                               
would be a  suggestion to the legislature, and it  is not binding                                                               
to the legislature in any way.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Number 2032                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  WILSON said,  "This really  is a  dilemma."   She                                                               
added that politics truly is  involved with fiscal decisions made                                                               
by  the  legislature.    The  legislation  would  give  districts                                                               
certainty  in planning  budgets, but  the uncertainty  of funding                                                               
issue is  a reality.  She  asked:  How do  districts know they've                                                               
received as  much as possible?   She  concluded that there  is no                                                               
quick answer to this dilemma.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE added  that "pink slips" don't add  to teacher morale                                                               
or retention.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Number 2113                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS noted  that one year during  his tenure as                                                               
a  school  board  member,  all  first-year  teachers  were  pink-                                                               
slipped.    The  district  intended   to  rehire  most  of  these                                                               
teachers,  but  the  pink  slips  were  distributed  nonetheless,                                                               
because of budget uncertainty.   In light of the teacher shortage                                                               
in the state, more funding  certainty would serve districts well.                                                               
He said, "'We're giving  you a pink slip.'  If  I were a teacher,                                                               
the first thing  I'd do is check around Seattle.  ... Many people                                                               
are doing that."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS offered that  other states pay teachers as                                                               
much  or more  than Alaska.   He  referenced the  comment by  Mr.                                                               
Jones indicating districts  could be in the job  market six weeks                                                               
earlier -  a tremendous advantage.   The "cream of the  crop" may                                                               
be gone after that, he concluded.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2185                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN drew attention  to the state's dependence on                                                               
oil revenue, characterizing the  prognostication of oil prices as                                                               
a "crapshoot."   He  suggested Alaska could  not expect  a sudden                                                               
increase  in oil  prices,  and  pointed out  that  the state,  in                                                               
recent years, has been spending more  than it has been taking in.                                                               
He offered his experience at  the end of session, that discussion                                                               
doesn't focus  on increasing education spending  by cutting other                                                               
expenditures.    Typically,  he  noted,  the  discussion  instead                                                               
centers  on  "holding  the  line"   on  education  funding.    He                                                               
predicted  that this  would  not  change in  the  future, and  he                                                               
suggested that  waiting until the  end puts education  funding in                                                               
greater jeopardy.   He noted  the uncertainty of  recruiting good                                                               
teachers.  He suggested an early start will help the state.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2263                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PORTER  informed members that his  son is teaching                                                               
in Oregon.  After teaching in  Anchorage for five years and being                                                               
pink-slipped  two or  three  of  those years,  his  son left  the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BUNDE closed  public testimony  on HB  342 and  sought the                                                               
wish of the committee.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GREEN moved  to report HB 342  from committee with                                                               
individual  recommendations  and  the  accompanying  zero  fiscal                                                               
note.   There being  no objection,  HB 342 was  moved out  of the                                                               
House Special Committee on Education.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                

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